Pastor Larry Robinson

           A:   I will attempt to answer your question concerning eternal security by saying, I believe that a Christian can cease to be a Christian through apostasy or "falling away" and in that case he can be lost. The Scripture that I am going to give you for study is: Untitled Document Hebrews 6:4-6 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,

5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

This scripture is abundantly clear, and to try to explain it away as referring to a sinner under conviction as some do, is to corrupt the Scripture.

The Apostle Paul said that Demas who was once saved "hath forsaken me, having loved this present world" (2nd Timothy 4:10).

Jesus said "If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed" (John 8:31).

Paul said that you could fall from grace (Galatians 5:4). He also said "some shall depart from the faith" (1st Timothy 4:10).

How can you depart from something you have never experienced?

Peter gave a graphic example of a person once being saved and then being lost. He said:

(2nd Peter 2:20-22)
20. For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
21. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
22. But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, the dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire."

We read concerning Christ sheep " I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish" (John 10:28).

The proponents of eternal security use this passage wrongly, for Christ sheep are those who hear his voice and follow Him, not the other way (see John 10:27).

So, as long as we hear His voice and follow Him, we are safe and secure. I see no promise here for those that stop hearing and following Jesus.

People that put their trust in eternal security contend that a sheep is always a sheep and cannot be anything else.

But we see that the bible teaches that if we stray from God's fold, we are lost sheep (Luke 15:6).

Another theory used is, that no matter how bad a child may become, he is always a child of his father. So those who were once children of God must remain His children no matter how deep in sin they may become involved.

Spiritual birth is compared to natural birth, but without basic.

Jesus was the Only Begotten Son of God; He could not become anything else.

We are adopted sons ( Romans 8:15-9:4 ; Galatians 4:5 ; Ephesians 1:5 )

So you see Christians can fall back into sin and lose their sonship, Adam, once a son of God, lost his sonship.

Another argument that is used, is that a Christian has eternal life, so consequently it is forever.

It is true that life is eternal, but a person does not necessarily eternally hold onto it.

Jesus said, "If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed" (John 8:31).

Scripture plainly teaches if anyone desires to be saved, no matter how weak and stumbling that Christian may be, he will not be lost (John 3:15-16; 10:27-29; Romans 8:35-49; 14:4; Ephesians 1:13).

However, if that person wants to turn his back on God, he has the option to do so; and if he does, according to the Word of God, he will be lost.

The Gospel, as taught in the Word of God gives the greatest assurance of all: I never worry about my salvation because I have purposed in my heart to live for God no matter what comes or goes and I know that God is able to keep me from falling, according to the Scriptures:

Jude 1:24-25 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,

25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.

I have heard friends of mine that believe in eternal salvation say that "When the rapture takes place, millions of Christians will leave out of nightclubs, roadhouses, saloons, gambling dens, even some in the act of committing adultery, and so forth, and will be transformed and immediately go to be with Jesus Christ."

This kind of teaching is a false doctrine. Actually I believe it is a Satanic doctrine to give people a false sense of security.

I personally have seen people deceived by this teaching and while living a very ungodly life, say that they believed that they would go to be with God in heaven if they were to die.

This is a trick of Satan, and I'm afraid that preachers and churches have presented it, to increase their membership and finances.

Sometimes people will become very angry with you when you disagree with their theory of eternal security. Instead of making their life right with God, they continue to live in sin.

I'm afraid that millions of people are living in open sin, making no effort at all to live for God, thinking they are going to heaven.

Of course, if they do not change, they will die and be eternally lost in hell.

Many other true Christians who believe this doctrine do not concern themselves too much with sinful loved ones, even though these loved ones may be living a vile life.

They think "Well they have once been saved, and even though they are out of fellowship with God, they will go to heaven when they die." sometimes, because of this theory, little effort is made to get them back right with God.

Eternal security is taught in Scripture on the basic of obedience to God.
If men truly want security, they must meet God's terms. No man is obligated to sin.

God has made full provision "to keep men ... and present them faultless" (Jude:24) in heaven if they will cooperate.

It certainly won’t disappoint me if everyone living outside the will of God is allowed into heaven. It would be fine with me if every ungodly person were to go to heaven, but I don’t believe it will happen.

I will say that if God were to tell me that I could go to heaven and still live ungodly and sinful and any old rotten lowdown way that I wanted, it would not change my lifestyle one iota. I would still want to live righteous for my Lord Jesus.

Presidential candidate John Kerry said recently that “We are all God’s children” but we are not.

He must have been unaware of the time when Jesus was talking to some men and He said that they were children of the devil, Jesus plainly said in

John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

But let me say this in closing, I truly believe that there is no provision except hell for those who rebel against God's directions

All hope of assurance while living in rebellion is a fool's hope.

In summary, I take the position that any teaching of security that encourages sin is false and more than false I believe that it is a satanic doctrine.

Thank you for your question.
I pray that God will bless you,
Pastor Larry Robinson




           Untitled Document Hebrews 6:4-6 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,

5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

This scripture is abundantly clear, and to try to explain it away as referring to a sinner under conviction as some do, is to corrupt the Scripture.

The Apostle Paul said that Demas who was once saved "hath forsaken me, having loved this present world" (2nd Timothy 4:10).

Jesus said "If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed" (John 8:31).

Paul said that you could fall from grace (Galatians 5:4). He also said "some shall depart from the faith" (1st Timothy 4:10).

How can you depart from something you have never experienced?

Peter gave a graphic example of a person once being saved and then being lost. He said:

(2nd Peter 2:20-22)
20. For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
21. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
22. But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, the dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire."

We read concerning Christ sheep " I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish" (John 10:28).

The proponents of eternal security use this passage wrongly, for Christ sheep are those who hear his voice and follow Him, not the other way (see John 10:27).

So, as long as we hear His voice and follow Him, we are safe and secure. I see no promise here for those that stop hearing and following Jesus.

People that put their trust in eternal security contend that a sheep is always a sheep and cannot be anything else.

But we see that the bible teaches that if we stray from God's fold, we are lost sheep (Luke 15:6).

Another theory used is, that no matter how bad a child may become, he is always a child of his father. So those who were once children of God must remain His children no matter how deep in sin they may become involved.

Spiritual birth is compared to natural birth, but without basic.

Jesus was the Only Begotten Son of God; He could not become anything else.

We are adopted sons ( Romans 8:15-9:4 ; Galatians 4:5 ; Ephesians 1:5 )

So you see Christians can fall back into sin and lose their sonship, Adam, once a son of God, lost his sonship.

Another argument that is used, is that a Christian has eternal life, so consequently it is forever.

It is true that life is eternal, but a person does not necessarily eternally hold onto it.

Jesus said, "If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed" (John 8:31).

Scripture plainly teaches if anyone desires to be saved, no matter how weak and stumbling that Christian may be, he will not be lost (John 3:15-16; 10:27-29; Romans 8:35-49; 14:4; Ephesians 1:13).

However, if that person wants to turn his back on God, he has the option to do so; and if he does, according to the Word of God, he will be lost.

The Gospel, as taught in the Word of God gives the greatest assurance of all: I never worry about my salvation because I have purposed in my heart to live for God no matter what comes or goes and I know that God is able to keep me from falling, according to the Scriptures:

Jude 1:24-25 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,

25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.

I have heard friends of mine that believe in eternal salvation say that "When the rapture takes place, millions of Christians will leave out of nightclubs, roadhouses, saloons, gambling dens, even some in the act of committing adultery, and so forth, and will be transformed and immediately go to be with Jesus Christ."

This kind of teaching is a false doctrine. Actually I believe it is a Satanic doctrine to give people a false sense of security.

I personally have seen people deceived by this teaching and while living a very ungodly life, say that they believed that they would go to be with God in heaven if they were to die.

This is a trick of Satan, and I'm afraid that preachers and churches have presented it, to increase their membership and finances.

Sometimes people will become very angry with you when you disagree with their theory of eternal security. Instead of making their life right with God, they continue to live in sin.

I'm afraid that millions of people are living in open sin, making no effort at all to live for God, thinking they are going to heaven.

Of course, if they do not change, they will die and be eternally lost in hell.

Many other true Christians who believe this doctrine do not concern themselves too much with sinful loved ones, even though these loved ones may be living a vile life.

They think "Well they have once been saved, and even though they are out of fellowship with God, they will go to heaven when they die." sometimes, because of this theory, little effort is made to get them back right with God.

Eternal security is taught in Scripture on the basic of obedience to God.
If men truly want security, they must meet God's terms. No man is obligated to sin.

God has made full provision "to keep men ... and present them faultless" (Jude:24) in heaven if they will cooperate.

It certainly won’t disappoint me if everyone living outside the will of God is allowed into heaven. It would be fine with me if every ungodly person were to go to heaven, but I don’t believe it will happen.

I will say that if God were to tell me that I could go to heaven and still live ungodly and sinful and any old rotten lowdown way that I wanted, it would not change my lifestyle one iota. I would still want to live righteous for my Lord Jesus.

Presidential candidate John Kerry said recently that “We are all God’s children” but we are not.

He must have been unaware of the time when Jesus was talking to some men and He said that they were children of the devil, Jesus plainly said in

John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

But let me say this in closing, I truly believe that there is no provision except hell for those who rebel against God's directions

All hope of assurance while living in rebellion is a fool's hope.

In summary, I take the position that any teaching of security that encourages sin is false and more than false I believe that it is a satanic doctrine.

Thank you for your question.
I pray that God will bless you,
Pastor Larry Robinson



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